FOLLOWUP ON FALUN GONG
Re China Vax Genocide
If any of my info here seems subjective, or uninformed, don’t be shy about reacting.
UPDATE: 3/5/25. Frances Leader didn’t like my comments. I invited her to offer evidence that China has reformed, but she hasn’t done so as yet. She seems to expect me to accept her claims on their own, or the claims of her friends in China. It doesn’t make sense to me to do that. Anyone is invited to offer evidence of China’s reforms. I think it makes sense to be skeptical.
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FRANCES LEADER SUBSTACKER
Frances Leader has a Substack at https://substack.com/@francesleader, which states “British female Geo-political writer banned from most social media now writing exclusively on Substack about the history of totalitarianism and technocracy. Other interests include holistic healing and campaigning against electrosmog.” I wrote a couple posts about her findings regarding 5G and Covid in early 2023. They’re in the first section of my online book. As I recall, she doesn’t believe in viruses, so she thinks the Covid symptoms were caused only by 5G, I think. So we had a bit of a disagreement. I agree that the virus alone likely didn’t cause many deaths. But I believe viruses are real, that they’re either damaged DNA or RNA, or are exosomes from many species, either of which is occasionally somewhat toxic, but seldom if ever a primary cause of disease, which I also wrote about in my book.
FRANCES’ WARNING
Frances shared her comment about Falun Gong, saying the author of the video featured in my China Vax Genocide post “represents the Falun Gong movement who are conducting a hate campaign against China. Their propaganda is accepted as truth by the media in the West because it is useful to build hatred against the Chinese but that does not mean that their claims of persecution are true.” She added later, “The Falun Gong are fakers. Their news outlet The Epoch Times is full of transplant-related human rights abuse accusations, including the harvesting of organs by the Chinese state from Falun Gong practitioners. … I have friends living in China who also deny other stories that we are given by our media such as the Social Credit Score…. they don’t even know what that MEANS!!” She suggested these links: https://www.abc.net.au/religion/the-abc-is-right-that-falun-gong-teachings-are-dangerous/12538058; https://www.abc.net.au/listen/search?query=falun%20gong and https://en.falundafa.org/eng/pdf/ZFL2014.pdf.
BRIEF BIO ON FALUN GONG
Perplexity.AI says this. “Falun Gong, also known as Falun Dafa, is a spiritual movement that emerged in China in the early 1990s. It combines elements of qigong, a traditional Chinese practice involving meditation and breathing exercises, with moral teachings1,3. The movement gained significant popularity in China throughout the 1990s, with estimates of followers ranging from 2 to 80 million by 19991. Falun Gong was founded by Li Hongzhi in May 19921. It quickly spread across China, attracting millions of practitioners who gathered at various sites to practice meditation and exercises1. The movement's rapid growth and large following eventually led to concerns from the Chinese government.”
EX-MEMBER OF FALUN GONG
This is what Frances recommended we read. I’m just showing highlights.
The ABC is right: Falun Gong has some dangerous teachings https://www.abc.net.au/religion/the-abc-is-right-that-falun-gong-teachings-are-dangerous/12538058
… A number of people laboured over the decision to contact me before finally plucking up the courage, because they believed that Li could read their minds, and that his fashen or “law bodies” — basically, copies of himself that exist in a spiritual dimension — were always next to them and watching their every move and thought.
… Li has taught his followers that those who take up the belief and then leave will enter the “gate of no-life” — hell, in other words. He has described it in detail, likening it to being boiled in a pot of human sputum.
Each of the people who got in touch with me knew stories of people who had died from treatable conditions because they refused to get medical help due to their interpretation of Li Hongzhi’s teachings — parents, siblings, friends. I personally knew at least four people who died from treatable illnesses, and many more through acquaintances.
AI INTERJECTION: Falun Gong sources state that practitioners are free to make their own healthcare decisions, and many practitioners, including medical doctors, report health benefits from the practice1. Chinese government sources claim that Falun Gong teachings lead practitioners to refuse medical treatment, potentially endangering their health3. However, these claims have not been independently verified, and human rights organizations have questioned the validity of such assertions2.
MY COMMENT: I think it’s great to warn everyone of the extreme dangers of Allopathic Medicine and to recommend avoiding it if at all possible. I’ve found that there are almost always better natural treatments than medical treatments. But Allopathy has made itself a monopoly on emergency care, i.e. surgery etc, so tyranny rules there, and we’re stuck with it usually. But Dr. Mendlesohn said 90% of surgery is unnecessary. I suspect 95% or more.
UPDATE: 3/5/25. I meant to add that I agree that Falun Gong or anyone should not pressure anyone not to get healthcare from anyone they want to ask.
BACK TO EX-MEMBER. I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve been told by Falun Gong believers that I must be an agent for the CCP. The way I see it, the notion that we somehow have to choose between Falun Gong and the Chinese Communist Party is a logical fallacy. I don’t like either side of this sordid choice, and I reserve the right to criticise both — because that’s the nuanced, complicated world we live in. And that is exactly what the ABC’s reports did. — Ben Hurley is a freelance journalist based in Taiwan, where he writes mostly about business topics. He was a Falun Gong believer for 12 years before distancing himself in 2013. He appeared in the ABC programs “The Power of Falun Gong.”
CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY
Frances seems to believe that the CCP is a decent governing body of China. But Ben Hurley, the ex-member that she recommended reading, says the CCP deserves criticism too. I told Frances, “I don't know much about Falun Gong, but I read that it's Buddhist. I'm certainly inclined to think that the CCP is likely to be way more evil than Buddhists. Has the CCP somehow reformed itself at some point? I haven't heard of that so far. If they have, please elucidate.” So far, Frances hasn’t made a case that China has reformed. I watch videos of Scott Ritter and Col. MacGregor every few days and they seem to think China is okay, so I don’t rule out that possibility, but I’m still inclined to believe that China’s just as tyrannical as ever, partly because of other videos I watch.
One channel is China Fact Chasers. This is their channel: https://www.youtube.com/@ChinaFactChasers. I don’t know if that’s their original channel. They used to live in China. They have Chinese wives and they used to ride motorcycles all over China and make videos along the way. They apparently had a drone to get clips of them riding. I started watching them before the Covid scam hit. They showed a lot of China and made it seem like China had made a lot of progress. But they started showing absurdities of China’s bureaucracy, like painting dead shrubs green to make them look good. When the Pandemic scam came along, things were getting difficult for foreigners in China, so they got out before it was too late. So these and other videos have made it seem that the CCP is tyrannical and that they lie about everything to try to save face.
Frances said Epoch Times is run by Falun Gong. I’ve only seen 2 or 3 of their videos, but what I saw looked decent, uncovering lies about the Covid vaxes etc. Their video channel is https://www.youtube.com/@TheEpochTimesNews/videos.
HATING TYRANNY & GENOCIDE
I doubt if anyone is encouraging hatred of China. The CCP is NOT China. The way I see it, the CCP is a parasite on China and deserves enough hatred to get it replaced with a humane government. Few governments are really humane, but China seems to be among the least humane. Lei’s video that pointed out the evidence of a huge death toll in China (mainly from vaxes IMO) cannot be dismissed readily. The evidence looks strong to me. Falun Gong doesn’t seem to be entirely saintly, if the ex-members’ stories are true. They sound similar to some Muslim religions, some Mormons, and like the early Puritans in the U.S. There are probably plenty of other cultist religions around the world. I don’t regard belief in Hell as necessarily cultist. I think it means a temporary place or condition of cleansing.
The Covid scam is strong evidence that some major part of the Ruling Class is genocidal, seeking to reduce the world’s population, whether via genetically engineered viruses, or via vaccines, or via genetically engineered injections, etc. I’m not yet convinced that Trump opposes the genocide scheme, but I’m pretty confident that RFK Jr opposes it and intends to do all in his power to end it. It’s hard to determine who the Ruling Class is, but most or all governments seem to be controlled by them. My impression is that the Deep State has controlled the CCP from the beginning and has used it to genocide China, first with the one-child policy, and recently with the Covid scam. They can do it with impunity in China, but a bit less easily in the rest of the world. But they may be using China as a guinea pig to figure out the best way to genocide the rest of us. Some of us oppose genocide.
I like very much how you give fair and argument to two or more "sides", and how you justify or back up your own stance. This is how we should all be able to think and speak and write!